September 12, 2005
Dictatorship and Anger - Krishnamurti
I've been reading Krishnamurti regularly now. A piece of dialogues at a time. I had some interesting insights.
I remember thinking, when I was 13 that, one should make all these corrupt politicians of India stand in a line, and then give me a gun to shoot them all! I also thought that if I had my way, I would assume dictatorship to bring the country back to peace. How wrong I had been, and I have learnt it through the following years. As Krishnamurti pointed out in one of his dialogues, "Means and ends are not seperate, they are a joint phenomenon; the means create the end. Through violence there can never be peace; a police State cannot produce a peaceful citizen; through compulsion, freedom cannot be achieved. A classless society cannot be established if the party is all-powerful, it can never be the outcome of dictatorship."
In another interesting reading of my own revelations on my anger, Krishnamurti: "Anger has that peculiar quality of isolation; like sorrow, it cuts one off, and for the time being, at least, all relationship comes to an end. Anger has the temporary strength and vitality of the isolated. There is strange despair in anger; for isolation is despair. The anger of disappointement, of jealousy, of the urge to wound, gives a violent release whose pleasure is self-justification."
Posted by puzli at September 12, 2005 02:16 PM
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Once again, Puzli, you astound and humble me with the crystal clarity of the insights you obtain from your reading. I am relieved and delighted that you have achieved the realization that violence(even if at first conceived as a means to obtain peace) can only beget violence. I do not know your opinion of Ghandi, but surely he exemplifies exactly what you have come to understand.
I did not study the writings of any writers(at least not in any depth) except those of Europe and America. I am woefully lacking in the wisdom of those authors who, I surmise, were considered valuable but not as far reaching in the cultural realm in which I would be teaching. I intend, this very day, to go to the library in search of a volume written by Krishnamurti.
Thank you for providing me with a rich and potentially exciting source of new philosophic areas for me to read, ponder,and most importantly,from which to gain knowledge, a commodity that I hoard like a miser.
With admiration and love,
Paula
Posted by: Paula Kirkpatrick at September 12, 2005 06:42 PM
hey paula,
It's "Gandhi", and he definitely exemplified Krishnamurti. He led India to freedom without any revolt. Throughout our independance struggle, he united the whole country, and a country as vast and diverse as ours was not an easy task, but he did it and led the people to freedom. It's an amazing story. If u get the time, you should read about our (India's) freedom struggle. It's really interesting.
And I yet have to read Gandhian philosophy. :)
Posted by: puzli at September 13, 2005 02:10 PM
Puzli,
This is a great blog. Keep it up.
Posted by: RP at September 21, 2005 02:59 AM
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Once again, Puzli, you astound and humble me with the crystal clarity of the insights you obtain from your reading. I am relieved and delighted that you have achieved the realization that violence(even if at first conceived as a means to obtain peace) can only beget violence. I do not know your opinion of Ghandi, but surely he exemplifies exactly what you have come to understand.
I did not study the writings of any writers(at least not in any depth) except those of Europe and America. I am woefully lacking in the wisdom of those authors who, I surmise, were considered valuable but not as far reaching in the cultural realm in which I would be teaching. I intend, this very day, to go to the library in search of a volume written by Krishnamurti.
Thank you for providing me with a rich and potentially exciting source of new philosophic areas for me to read, ponder,and most importantly,from which to gain knowledge, a commodity that I hoard like a miser.
With admiration and love,
Paula
Posted by: Paula Kirkpatrick at September 12, 2005 06:42 PM
hey paula,
It's "Gandhi", and he definitely exemplified Krishnamurti. He led India to freedom without any revolt. Throughout our independance struggle, he united the whole country, and a country as vast and diverse as ours was not an easy task, but he did it and led the people to freedom. It's an amazing story. If u get the time, you should read about our (India's) freedom struggle. It's really interesting.
And I yet have to read Gandhian philosophy. :)
Posted by: puzli at September 13, 2005 02:10 PM
Puzli,
This is a great blog. Keep it up.
Posted by: RP at September 21, 2005 02:59 AM